Why Some Touring Artists Should Just Stay Home

She’s back!  Today, I have another guest post from Celeste AKA GalaxC Girl. Celeste performs as GalaxC Girl in Asheville, NC and the surrounding area where she combines her DJ set with live visuals. In her last post about why no one wants to book you, she just ranted about what she was seeing while getting booked. She attracted a lot of attention to this site, some of it hostile! Well, despite all the disagreements; I couldn’t really argue with her experience because it was her own experience and opinions based on that experience. I’ve always appreciated the DIY ethic and the take-responsibility attitude and have admired that in any artist. Additionally when it was time to post this next rant from her, I found that her experience in Asheville reminds me of why it’s hard for me to do show trades or book artists in my own city. 

Enjoy the guest post and leave your feedback and comments below. (top photo credit: Audible Imagery)


 

GalaxC Girl

photo credit: Visual Bliss Photography

To whom it may concern in the realm of booking electronic shows in small cities,

I rarely solicit artists to book in the small city I live in. Because it’s not really feasible. But I get hit up all the time by acts and agents about shows. Some totally understand and some seem to get a little offended when I try to explain, but usually don’t have the time to go in to great depth and detail, why I’d be happy to help put together a show but cannot promise L.A., San Fran or Atlanta prices for Asheville, population 83,000. So I’m just gonna try to spell it all out here (if population 83,000 isn’t enough for you, lol!). I think this will resonate with other small, artsy cities, maybe even larger cities with smaller scenes too.

After watching event after event of all kinds of promoters bringing in up and coming DJs and acts to headline Asheville, I just have to say STOP being so damn unrealistic with the fuckin guarantee, people! We are not NYC! We are tiny little Asheville!

Big Gigantic at Bele Chere in Asheville
Photo Credit: Visual Bliss Photography
The truth is, if I’m involved with organizing an official party, we could just headline me or get one of my awesome friends and probably get just as many people out making the event way more profitable for us locals than if we hosted someone. (In fact, most the sold out parties I’ve played here have been ones that I let someone book me as headliner so it feels kind of weird letting people headline me, have a killer show then I bust my ass to headline someone else to give them all of the profits instead of myself?) But whatever, it is fun to change it up and bring in more exotic fresh acts, of course, so I’m usually down to network and help cool acts get heard here.

But the thing about Asheville is that it’s a totally different economy when it comes to throwing parties…

It’s a really small city with A LOT going on ALL the time. There are other small cities where the risk isn’t so great because they don’t have as much going on. Asheville is saturated with events more than Hunter S Thompson’s brain was saturated with drugs. So it’s not realistic to make guarantees that other cities can make…unless one is willing to take the risk of paying out of pocket or has some money to blow, lol. Which I don’t, ha.

GalaxC Girl photo credit: Patrick Dove Photography
The show could pop off all crazy or a million other parties or a festival near by or whatever could harm turnout, you just never know in Asheville! I cannot afford to book myself in Asheville. I have to play other cities to get my “normal” rate. Usually to book myself in Asheville I have to give myself a really super great deal (it’s a good thing I live here and know myself so well, haha) and just do it for the love of this freaky lil city. If I stuck to my “normal” rates I would hardly ever get to play here. Sure you could possibly get booked at some crazy shit like Moogfest or Bele Chere and get your normal fee but those are special events, not a typical party.

Or you could let some little shit muffins who barely know what they’re doing book you, promise you your fee, throw you a shitty party then have to pay you out of pocket or go rob their grandma to honor your contract (or just totally not pay you at all!?) There are a lot of these shit muffins who give touring artists a false sense of reality for what is doable in our little city. They pop in with a party or two and fail, ruining themselves by paying acts way more than what is possible here and fade away real quick. We realistic people are the ones who stick around, steadily throwing realistic events and have to keep picking up their pieces of shitty failed party after they screw around flinging their small amount of shit on our scene. (But the shit muffins pop up like mushrooms so there’s usually always new ones to tool if you’re into that kind of thing and want to go shit muffin mushroom hunting.)

GalaxC Girlphoto credit: Patrick Dove Photography
Shady promoters with money to burn from shady business also give artists a false sense of what is possible for legit, non shady promoters. And they don’t last either. They often get arrested or geeked out on shit or chased out of town or whatever. Kudos to you if you know promoters with shady money to throw at artists, but it’s not so easy for people who throw legit parties in small cities.

You could possibly get someone to book you and put every cent towards your fee without being able to budget in fliers or a decent venue or a decent PA system or decent support. Which, if you think about it, is much less valuable for your career than opting for a bit of a lesser guarantee for a properly produced event where you can look, sound, feel great and get actually promoted to the whole city condoned by respected people in the scene, being exposed to all their friends and supporters, generating more fans for you which is a way bigger pay off in the long run than making a few hundred more dollars at a poorly produced event with 5 people standing around in the corners and shitty speakers that you want to shoot to death with a double barrel shotgun.

Bass Center - Bassnectar at Asheville Civic Centerphoto credit: David Oppenheimer – Performance Impressions Concert Photography

Throwing successful events in a small scene that is bursting with parties like a fertile new mothers torpedo tits burst with milk every time her baby cries is fucking risky and hard and takes a lot of work. Just how hard is it to wisely budget a good party in a little scene without ruining yourself? Is it a coincidence that a promoter in our little scene left this life (rip, dude.) after his parties failed and he could not pay everyone what they were promised and he kept trying to invest in more parties to make it up but just kept falling further in the hole? I don’t know…but I don’t think so. Luckily, that is an extreme situation but still part of the nitty gritty reality of how harsh shit can be.

There is a possibility you could get a venue to just book you directly themselves who can supplement failed shows with other successful shows and bar sales. Good luck with that and have fun not having the great support of a real classic freakville lineup! A lot of venues won’t take on gambles either though. And many end up closing due to our overrun, crazy scene. I watch show after show with out of town acts fail because the numbers cannot add up to pay what these acts are asking for in Asheville. Most likely, only shit muffins, idiots, highrollers, shadyasses, naive or way too optimistic types are going to guarantee you an amount that is too much of a gamble to pay you unless you’re a really big deal or touring with a really big deal, sorry! And even if you are a big deal somewhere else, you might not be a big deal here yet.


(QE’s note: How do we get to be a “big deal”? Click here for the Definitive DJ Mindset. )


While I can and will organize the most kickass event possible, I cannot (normally, lol;) take significant gambles for an out of town act. But if an artist is worth what they are asking then it shouldn’t be a problem to take just a bit of the gamble *with* me for a smaller guarantee plus sliding scale/profits of the door, right? You could even make more than your asking price if you are that hot shit enough, right? If you have that kind of pull and can get people to come even if a freaky local burner queen just happens to throw a free sexybunnyhop birthday party at a communal housing project that night or if you are so awesome that people will still come in the rain, then sweet, no worries, right? I know I will do my part of proper promo but if you don’t have that kind of pull to get people there no matter what, even with great promo, why the hell should I work my ass off, invest in fliers, promote the hell out of you, tell all my fans to like you, etc, etc just to throw myself under the bus?

Typically, there’s no money to be made with parties in a little artsy fartsy city like Asheville. Usually a successful event with an out of town headliner involved means you covered venue costs, covered fliers and then gave most of the profits to the person you just hyped as the most awesome thing ever to everyone you know without paying yourself barely a few peanuts, if anything at all, much less covering all the time you spent on the internet hyping it or the gas and time and shit it took to plaster posters all over town to advertise that artist… and sometimes the only thanks for all that free work and handing over all the profits is for the artist to take that money out of our tiny city’s economy with little appreciation for making them totally known in the area and able to move up in the game here, yay.

Bassnectar and Pretty Lights both came through Asheville several times, first playing the smallest venues, working hard to get known and pack out the small venues…then moved up. They moved up *after* they had not just *played* the smaller venues but *packed* the smaller venues.

It’s a unique situation here. Some people totally get it. Some people don’t. And I’m cool either way with their decision whether they are like “hell yeah, awesome, let’s do it” or if they respectfully choose to pass on joining in on the gamble *on themselves*. But don’t get mad at me for being straight up and honest when others are just ignoring you, pawning you off or making stupid guarantees!

And if I do throw you a party and tell everyone I know about you, give my fans to you, bust my ass making sure you play the best venue available, put quality color posters all over town, make sure there’s a quality PA system, dope visuals, solid support, sexy performers and a great vibe even though I cannot promise your regular price that big cities, high-rollers, delusional people, shit muffins or liars can; it is a privilege and an honor if I hook it up for you. Because whether you make more or less than your regular fee, playing a quality event in a little mystical, magical mecca like Asheville and gaining even just a few mystical, magical, freaky Ashevillian supporters is totally effin priceless on a cosmically glorious level.

If you don’t have a gambler or bigwig booking you here or you’re not yet a super bigwig yourself and don’t want to share the gamble of your pull in a small but immeasurably awesome city, you could by pass Asheville and only stop to graze in the money green shit muffin pastures of bigger cities…

None of this was directed at anyone in particular at all. It is an overall viewpoint almost 10 years in the making.

No offense to anyone. Just raw truth tangent. Dig it.


Thanks to Celeste for adding her thoughts here. You can find Celeste aka GalaxC Girl at GalaxCgirl.com or connect on her Facebook page

I also want to add. The absolute best thing I have ever read on this topic is over at Audible Hype. Go read Is Touring Really Necessary? Part One, Part Two, & Part Three

 Additionally, if you want even more insight about taking your DJ or EDM career to the next level, learn about The Definitive DJ Mindset

Update Plus 8 Off 8th Performance Video

Quiet Entertainer performing for 8 off 8th at The Mercy Lounge

I don’t normally do a WHOLE lot of self-promotional posts, but what a great past few weeks I’ve had! Last week I played a great show with Slow Hands. Check them out.

And then just a couple of nights ago I played 8 Off 8th here in Nashville. That was a great time and I was introduced to a lot of other great bands. Check the flyer to see the names of all the bands I saw and then watch the video of the full performance! 8 off 8th flyer with Quiet Entertainer

So, I’m feeling pretty good. Next few weeks I’ll be going out of town for a change! I’ll be back in Knoxville for The Midnight Voyage on July 20th; then in Clarksville for The Coup’s first show at their new spot on the 27th. And then finally back in Nashville for my CD release / Birthday Party! Quiet Entertainer CD Release & Birthday Party at The 5 Spot in Nashville

So much fun all around! What are you up to?

Celebrating The Success Of Others

Bassnectar at Electric Forest Family Photo

Photo Credit: Shaun Hollingsworth

 

It’s hard to celebrate the successes of others when you have come up short on your own. The most viewed post at this site is “How I Got My Music On Pandora.” The second most? The one about How I Quit My Day Job Too Early. One is about a very cool success story. The other detailing a monumental letdown. It’s easy to feel like you’re not living up to your potential when you look around at others your age or in your field and you start comparing.

I work another day job now. It’s been exactly one year since I quit that other day job. One of the things that inspired me to quit that job a year ago was a lifestyle of comparison. I was looking at everyone else who was doing what I wanted to do and comparing my life to theirs. I was looking at DJs and Electronic Musicians; watching them tour the country wishing I could do the same. I was sitting back and counting my Facebook Fans, Twitter & Soundcloud followers and wondering how can I take over the internet.

 

going viral

 

When you live a lifestyle of comparison, you can only set yourself up for disappointment and feelings of inadequacy. Is my music good enough? Am I working hard enough? Did I make a mistake that I can’t recover from? Should I give up? No one really develops artists anymore. I never had a DJ mentor; I’ve been kind of just doing it on my own. I had already learned a lot about the new music economy since moving to Nashville. But I had a lot of questions that only DJs could answer.

But you can’t learn from people when you’re jealous of them. It’s hard to have an open mind when you have a sense of entitlement. I definitely needed a shift in my mindset. Why not celebrate the successess of others? These are the things that I could learn from and ultimately grow as an artist. I had definitely not grasped the art of being an apprentice. Nor the art of becoming good at things or being a master of my craft.

I talked to Greg Rollett and he suggested that I start interviewing DJs. Well, I had already been doing that. (DJ Orig, Ducko McFli, Bateman) However this would be different. This time I would put everything together and build a course that would help people like myself trying to change their DJ career. The result of that is The Definitive DJ Mindset: 5 Ways To Take Your DJ Career To The Next Level.

Definitive DJ Mindset Long Banner
 

The process of putting this together has been very educational for me. Just having an open mind and being willing to learn has been a huge difference. This difference for me has been being willing to learn and not being bitter about the success of others. I’m thankful and grateful for all the people who have been willing to invest in me. Including you, who are taking time out to read this. Whether you’re a DJ or not, I’d want you to consider that you can learn both from your mistakes and from the successess of others. In time, I hope that people will be able to celebrate your successes, too.

Sam & Tre x Nacho Picasso w/ Blue Sky Black Death – I’m a Stoner

Alright! Here’s a new track. It’s part remix, part mashup, part blend. I took my favorite track from Sam and Tre, “I’m a Stoner,” and put the vocals over with a piece of the original Sam and Tre beat plus a track “Numbnuts” from Nacho Picasso & Blue Sky Black Death. This is the result!

If you like this, please go ahead and share, tweet, or +1 this post. and I thank you. :-)

Ducko McFli Defines Hustle and the Artist Lifestyle

It seems like I always see Ducko McFli’s name when I’m taking a look at who’s doing something in the Nashville Hip Hop scene. I felt like I could learn a lot from him to help me get my work done and to hustle. Then I realized that we could all learn something. So I asked him a few questions. I’m so glad he had some time to spare. Here’s the result. 


QE: I first heard of you because of your project with Chancellor Warhol called N.O.B.O.T.S ? How has collaboration helped your career as an artist?

Ducko McFli: Collaborations have played a huge part in my career. From the project that kinda put me out in the open with Chance & The Nobots, to My project with Openmic, to doing production/songs with artist ranging from Dee Goodz, Young Buck, Ofishal, Rio, and more.. More than just a tool for promotion all the stuff I have learned from watching how these artist work has def played a greater role in the way I have been trying to structure my own project.

QE: You were heavily involved with dropping 4 albums last year. How were you able to get that much work done? 

DM:  I am a hermit, its really that simple. I never leave the house unless its something i really want to see or some where where i want to show support. Other than that i spend 90% of my time on my computer, mixing,writing, producing, sending emails, networking, editing video/pictures. I always tell everybody I speak to that I might not be the best but I def will be known as one of the hardest working. That and this is what I love to do. Its easy to just buckle down and get projects done when you have as much fun as I do making them.

QE: What tools are the most useful for you to stay organized?

DM: Man I live and die by my 17” Macbook Pro and Ableton Live. That’s really all I use. I have recently got a couple upgrades that im excited about but ultimately I always end up back on the OG set up.

QE: You often tell everyone that they can find you duckomcfli at everything. How important is it for you to be everywhere and why? 

DM: Its not so much about being everywhere for me but being where i need to be when somebody interested in my product wants to find it. I know that there is a strong cast of artist/producers coming up in the ville right now and I have always had a great appreciation for anybody who rocks with me. I know that there is plenty other things you could be doing with your time so if you take the time to check me out I want to make it as easy as possible for you.

QE: Tell me about your latest release?

DM:  KINGDUCK was my latest release, my 1st official release as a rapper. I love the project it was a great start for me as far as letting people know I rap and what I actually stand for as person. Its an E.P. I tried to keep it short and sweet its only 10 songs. Produced entirely by the homie Chris King (www.twitter.com/lifelovekicks

What a lot of people don’t know is that the entire project was wrote/recorded in 1 day. It really was crazy how it kinda happened. I sat down to write and didn’t get up till I had wrote all the songs, They all sounded good so I ran with it. Recorded it up at the big homie Matic Lee‘s spot in 2 hours and then he mixed it and we put it out. Its different, I don’t feel like there is anybody else really making music like I do, its got a different feel. I don’t do swag rap, I don’t do cool kid stuff.. The motto here is The Return of The Real and thats what I try and bring out.

QE: What are you currently working on?

DM: I am currently working on the next E.P. “The Return Of The Real” I have gotten together some new material that I am currently finishing up for the new project. We are really excited about it. I was reached out to by a couple producers after I dropped the KINGDUCK project and I have been blessed to have some crazy records and features from some super talented people. I am currently in the progress of shooting videos and about to start recording the last batch of songs for it and we are hoping for a May Release right in time for summer..

QE: Tell me about any other project you’re a part of.

DM: The other projects I am really on right now is the rest of the P.U.S.H. crew I have put together a strong cast of rappers and we are about to start putting out music really soon that is gonna get a good response we hope. Sofa Brown is in the final stages of finishing his tape “The Wonders” which is crazy, he is sending me songs as he gets them wrapped up and everyone is better than the last. We are about to start shooting his promo material here in the next week or so. There are also new projects being put together by Evan Blocker, and Karl Marx as well.

QE: If another artist wanted to collaborate with you, what would they need to do first? what do you look for when you want to work with someone? 

DM: I really just wanna know that you are working. I love good music, as long as you make good music and your business is on the up and up then lets work. I am not any better than anybody. I work a regular job and pay my bills just like anybody else. I hate when people tell me that they waited to hit me up or didn’t want to at first cause they thought I wouldn’t mess with them.. I make my self so openly available because i want to work. If you got an idea, HIT ME UP. Lets make some dope shit.

QE: How do you define “hustle” or “grind”? Meaning what are some tangible things that you actually do every day to make sure you’re successful? 

DM:  Hustle to me is just doing everything you can to get what you want. I don’t know if what im doing is the right thing, the good thing, whatever but its all I know and all I can do. I just make sure i know going into anything that i have put my best foot forward and whatever happens from that happens. All you can do is do you and keep putting out product, If its good and you are dedicated it will work. You just cant expect it over night and stay patient and humble.

QE: 2011 was a great year for Nashville hip hop. What would you like to see happen locally in 2012?

DM: Truthfully, Nashville is moving better than I have ever seen it. There used to be a problem with clicks not supporting other clicks and causing this unnecessary blockage of nashville talent but thats not happening any more. People are reaching out and linking up and making stuff happen. I love where we are right now.

QE: What artists do you see “doing it right” in Nashville and what are they doing? 

DM: There is so many artist right now im really messing with, Openmic, Petty, P.A. Lit, Stan, Kaby, Ofishal, Chancellor Warhol, and it goes on. People have their plans together and are making things happen for the city and I really have a crazy amount of respect for the people that are making noise in a city where the Hip Hop community has been silenced for so long.



Thanks so much to Ducko for a great interview! Please check out everything he’s up to on all of his various channels below.

www.duckomcfli.com

www.twitter.com/duckomcfli

duckomcfli@gmail.com

www.soundcloud.com/thepushlife

www.soundcloud.com/duckomcfli

Pics by ShotByShante Photography, Ramiah Branch Photography, & Kelly Hite Photo.